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"The Top 20 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Globe" - Flat Earth has long been denigrated, derided and disparaged as being the most crackpot of all conspiracy theories, marginalized, mocked and ridiculed …More
"The Top 20 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Globe" - Flat Earth has long been denigrated, derided and disparaged as being the most crackpot of all conspiracy theories, marginalized, mocked and ridiculed for centuries as being an ignorant ancient unscientific worldview, but the facts of the matter are far from what you have been told. When thoroughly examined and diligently researched with an open-mind, any skeptical critical-thinker will find it is actually the tilting, wobbling, spinning space-ball Earth promoted by NASA and taught in schools that is truly ridiculous and unscientific. The following are 20 ways anyone can prove for themselves that Earth is a level stationary plane. I have intentionally made this to be the most concise yet comprehensive introduction to the Flat Earth possible, packed with proofs and rebuttals to common objections, like an update to my original 200 Proofs. Please help share this documentary on your social medias and with all the globe-Earthers in your life. Chapters list 00:00:45, Common sense 00:05:56, Fake photos 00:10:43, Water 00:14:30, The horizon 00:17:54, Gyroscopes 00:20:52, Compasses 00:22:49, Plane sailing 00:24:37, Construction 00:31:04, Distant Photography 00:34:19, Lighthouses 00:36:52, Impossible atmosphere 00:41:22, Flight times 00:45:21, Flight paths 00:48:37, Latitude & longitude 00:53:54, Arctic vs Antarctic 00:57:38, Midnight sun 00:59:50, Polaris 01:02:36, South "pole" star 01:04:45, Local sun 01:07:27, Science experiments

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Miles - Christi
Because, in my opinion, the intention is to make the human being feel totally disoriented in a chaotic universe, without up or down, without stability of any kind, in constant expansion, but destined finally to become extinct, emerged from a "big bang" impersonal and meaningless, with the human being brought into existence by the chance of "evolution", and being of utter insignificance in a meaningless …More
Because, in my opinion, the intention is to make the human being feel totally disoriented in a chaotic universe, without up or down, without stability of any kind, in constant expansion, but destined finally to become extinct, emerged from a "big bang" impersonal and meaningless, with the human being brought into existence by the chance of "evolution", and being of utter insignificance in a meaningless cosmos. This is the subliminal message people receive through the modern, "scientific" worldview of the universe. And this is in the antipodes of what emerges from the biblical account of Creation...
Juan Perez
Because your life cannot have meaning in a meaningless world. That is why Galileo was one of the worst revolutionaries, worst than Marx, he destroyed Christian cosmology, and with this he put in doubt all the Bible. Saint Bellarmine and the Church were right. Galileo repented of what he did at the end of his life. But who nowadays knows that Galileo was wrong in every way? Very few! and if you show …More
Because your life cannot have meaning in a meaningless world. That is why Galileo was one of the worst revolutionaries, worst than Marx, he destroyed Christian cosmology, and with this he put in doubt all the Bible. Saint Bellarmine and the Church were right. Galileo repented of what he did at the end of his life. But who nowadays knows that Galileo was wrong in every way? Very few! and if you show people the scientific proof that the earth doesn't move and it is the center of the universe you are seen as crazy (Although whether the earth is flat or round I cannot tell). Despite the fact that all Church fathers support this truth (this interpretation of the bible) Thus, making it certain. This means that if you are against a motionless earth at the center of the universe you are a heretic. Because when all Church Fathers agree on some interpretation you have to believe it. BUT NOBODY CARES! Because people do not understand how important is to know these truths.
Miles - Christi
Not at all. Watch this video: Retired F-16 Pilot - Earth is Flat
Miles - Christi - English
The majority do not lie, they simply do not relate things, do not "join the dots", almost no one considers the possibility of the flat earth, it is an issue absent from the concerns of the vast majority of people. But the truth is that a large number of pilots, when questioned about their supposed adjustment in relation to the earth's surface, naturally admit that nobody does. The same is said by …More
The majority do not lie, they simply do not relate things, do not "join the dots", almost no one considers the possibility of the flat earth, it is an issue absent from the concerns of the vast majority of people. But the truth is that a large number of pilots, when questioned about their supposed adjustment in relation to the earth's surface, naturally admit that nobody does. The same is said by the artillerymen of the armed forces, and the engineers of bridges and canals and highways and railways, it is a unanimous testimony in this regard...
Miles - Christi - English
Honestly, I cannot answer you, because I am completely unaware of the technical issues in this regard. The only thing I know is that I have heard testimony from pilots who deny making any adjustments in relation to the supposed curvature of the earth. And the same thing I say about ballistics specialists and engineers, who never take this parameter into account when exercising their trades. In any …More
Honestly, I cannot answer you, because I am completely unaware of the technical issues in this regard. The only thing I know is that I have heard testimony from pilots who deny making any adjustments in relation to the supposed curvature of the earth. And the same thing I say about ballistics specialists and engineers, who never take this parameter into account when exercising their trades. In any case, there is a very simple argument, available to anyone, without requiring complex mathematical calculations or technical subtleties, that allows anyone to understand that the earth is flat: water does not curve. It is an irrefutable fact and whose empirical verification is within reach of anyone who really seeks to know the truth on this matter. The truth is within the reach of anyone who really want to know it, instead of allowing to be submerged and stunned by a tide of technicalities and complicated reasoning through which the diabolical world elite, failing to convince us all, nevertheless manages, most of the time, to humiliate us before the public opinion, discredit us in order to lose credibility and reduce us to a humiliating silence by not knowing what to say in the face of their elaborate sophisms. It is something analogous to what happens with "evolutionism": it is the classic tactic of the evil one, that of neutralizing ordinary people through a false and abstruse science to which ordinary mortals are not in a position to respond adequately...
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Miles - Christi - English
Nobody can curve water, it is a physical impossibility...
Juan Perez
@Darby D Dillion Science never tells you more than the model. And the model is INVENTED by man. Of course a good model will try to correspond as much as possible with reality otherwise nobody will use it since it wont be able to predict. For instance the model that says that the earth is still and the center of the universe can do exactly the same predictions as a model with the sun or whatever …More
@Darby D Dillion Science never tells you more than the model. And the model is INVENTED by man. Of course a good model will try to correspond as much as possible with reality otherwise nobody will use it since it wont be able to predict. For instance the model that says that the earth is still and the center of the universe can do exactly the same predictions as a model with the sun or whatever other location at its center, to use either of those models is up to the person, and the reason to chose one or the other may depend on how convenient it is to make some calculations (or some other reason). The "geo stationary" satellites can be as easily explained in a model with the earth at its center. Science is like the following: You find that the grass in your backyard is wet: and you know rain produce this effect, also watering the plants produce this effect, and an infinitude of other reason may cause your grass to be wet. Now you do science and you build a simple model that says that any time there is rain then your grass will be wet. So far so good, now the problem nowadays is that people who knows little about the process of science will fall into the erroneous believe that only rain can make the grass wet, forcing their senses to accommodate to this model, and even if there is somebody watering the plants then later they will say that somehow it rained in between. It sound dumb but ultimately this is the error that most people fall with respect to science. So it is very possible that the pilot used a model with the premise that the earth is round and made some calculations that made sense, but this doesn't mean that the same explanations cannot be given with the assumption that the earth is flat. In summary it is not conclusive, because of the nature of science. It is not dumb to believe in a flat earth, because of the size of the earth our senses are not enough to conclude (although I have seen more proof that the earth is at least bigger than what they tell us because of the length you can zoom on the sea and see objects that should be hidden behind the curve, that proof is way more powerful than most globers use). But in summary, it is not dumb to believe either position. If the people at NASA were trustworthy we wouldn't be having this conversation.
aderito
Juan Perez you said it all ,thank you
Juan Perez
I do not know enough about the technical details to come up with an analogous explanation with a flat earth as a premise. But I'm sure it can be done. Maybye you will be navigating in a new map who doesn't need corrections? I do not know. The same way that some old astronomers, who believed the planets moved in circles, tried to aproximate an ellipse with sum of circles (Epicycles are just data …More
I do not know enough about the technical details to come up with an analogous explanation with a flat earth as a premise. But I'm sure it can be done. Maybye you will be navigating in a new map who doesn't need corrections? I do not know. The same way that some old astronomers, who believed the planets moved in circles, tried to aproximate an ellipse with sum of circles (Epicycles are just data analysis (Fourier series)). There must be a way we can came up with a function that transfroms a flat earth to a round earth and viceversa (whatever the shape is in reality) And then we apply that same function to all the calculations and we can go from one solution to the other given our assumptions. Now the difference may be that it can add complexity to the calculations if the premise is far from reality, but it can be done.
Juan Perez
In the book "the mystical city of god" I found an statement which says: "Faith is the source of knowledge". I really believe is true. But if somebody else knows more about this statement or if Aquinas or any other Good philosopher expanded on this I would be grateful to know.
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Juan Perez
@Darby D Dillion And this is because we can easily find a bijective function that maps a flat earth map to a round earth map and viceversa. And then we can just apply the same transformation to everything built on top of these maps accordingly.
Juan Perez
@Strong and Steadfast I have no idea about the effects of the sun and moon. But each of these models carry tons of other questions. I'm just saying that it is not dumb to believe one or the other, the problem is much more complicated than we usually believe. I would love to be able to lunch a rocket to the space and see the shape by myself. But I'm not able to do that and my trust on mainstream …More
@Strong and Steadfast I have no idea about the effects of the sun and moon. But each of these models carry tons of other questions. I'm just saying that it is not dumb to believe one or the other, the problem is much more complicated than we usually believe. I would love to be able to lunch a rocket to the space and see the shape by myself. But I'm not able to do that and my trust on mainstream science is each day going down so I trust more what I can see with my eyes than to blindly trust some unknown person's model.
Juan Perez
@Strong and Steadfast Another thing; The mainstream flat earth model has been debunked specially the motion of the Sun and Moon. This has been debunked with raw data, (data observed on the spot, not coming from a model) So, yes the mainstream flat earth model is wrong. But this doesn't mean immediately that there might be a better flat earth model. I personally do not know the shape of the earth …More
@Strong and Steadfast Another thing; The mainstream flat earth model has been debunked specially the motion of the Sun and Moon. This has been debunked with raw data, (data observed on the spot, not coming from a model) So, yes the mainstream flat earth model is wrong. But this doesn't mean immediately that there might be a better flat earth model. I personally do not know the shape of the earth because I'm not commanded by any authority to relive in a specific shape and because I cannot verify the shape with my eyes.
Juan Perez
@Strong and Steadfast Check out "qnfee" and "qnfee's" Youtube channels, he falsifies both models, the globe and the flat models. He uses official data from the US goverment to model the sun and moon on a globe and on a flat earth, and in both model there are huge inconsistencies. He was the one responsible for my skeptical position.
Juan Perez
@Strong and Steadfast Controlled opposition was born to produce the effect that you are warning people to avoid. We tend to go from one extreme to the other, and virtue is in the middle as some smart guy said. Mainstream flat earth was created to attract people disillusioned with mainstream science. But mainstream flat earth is flawed and I think this is on purpose, to make people, who believe in …More
@Strong and Steadfast Controlled opposition was born to produce the effect that you are warning people to avoid. We tend to go from one extreme to the other, and virtue is in the middle as some smart guy said. Mainstream flat earth was created to attract people disillusioned with mainstream science. But mainstream flat earth is flawed and I think this is on purpose, to make people, who believe in flat earth, look like fools and to push them from one extreme (to believe mainstream cosmology) to the other (to believe in a flawed flat earth model). But both model have flaws, like both parties have flaws it is always this dialectic methodology to control opinions.
Juan Perez
@Darby D Dillion The point is that I do not need to necessarily know the details, as long as you can project an spherical surface to a plane (which is possible) You can do the same with everything derived from assuming an spherical surface (or a flat surface) with respect to routes.
Juan Perez
@Darby D Dillion The only correct reason to believe something is if that something is true. You shouldn't respect an erroneous belief.
Juan Perez
@Darby D Dillion "I do support your right to believe what you choose to believe" Since I can choose to believe something wrong then you are supporting my right to believe something wrong. And I do not have a right to believe something wrong. Error has no rights. Error should not be respected let alone supported!
Juan Perez
@Darby D Dillion Sorry, I felt like I was being patronized, I'm very used to be alone against everybody. Even among my family.
Miles - Christi
Very interesting exchange. I have not participated simply because I do not have the necessary knowledge to launch into this type of analysis and argumentation. I limit myself to what my sensible knowledge of the surrounding reality tells me, along with a dose of common sense. Regarding the spherical drop of water, again, I cannot make any pertinent comment from a scientific point of view. But I am …More
Very interesting exchange. I have not participated simply because I do not have the necessary knowledge to launch into this type of analysis and argumentation. I limit myself to what my sensible knowledge of the surrounding reality tells me, along with a dose of common sense. Regarding the spherical drop of water, again, I cannot make any pertinent comment from a scientific point of view. But I am sure that if this case were submitted to an expert in fluid mechanics, he would know how to explain the reason for the shape that water has when it is present in such a minute quantity, while in all other cases, anyone, without need of any scientific knowledge, can verify for himself the evident fact from which he can conclude, in perfect logic, the irrefutable physical law that water spontaneously tends to level off, and that it is impossible for it to spread out in a container adopting a curved shape. This is a truth within the reach of any human being whose senses function correctly and whose reason does not suffer some kind of disturbance. And it is precisely based on this indubitable and irrefutable premise that I affirm the following: this single fact, totally true and empirically verifiable by anyone in their bathtub or in their kitchen sink, is reason enough to maintain that the earth's surface can not be spherical, but it must necessarily be flat. On the other hand, when one looks closely at the main indoctrinator in the matter -NASA-, and verifies that they are inveterate liars, a second argument is added that, although I recognize that it is not in itself a decisive one, gives legitimate reasons such as to distrust and investigate for oneself if the conception of the earth and the universe that they present to us is worthy of trust... Watch this videos and you will see: 1. "IRREFUTABLE PROOF THAT NASA IS LYING TO US" - Related: 1. NASA IS COM… - 2. NASA IS COMING BACK TO THE MOON. - 3. American Moon (English Version)
Credo .
Still laughing from 'Down-under'! 😊 😊 😊
Miles - Christi
I'm glad that's the case; it must not be easy to live in the antipodes, hold on tight so you don't fall... 😉
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Borikui
This is not a serious post 🤪. I guess unless you also don't believe in gravity.
Miles - Christi
Not at all, it is a very serious one. I suggest you to take the time to look at it leaving aside your prejudices for a moment and you will be able to verify it. And, of course, the supposed "law of gravity" is another untenable hoax, invented to support the official story of the spinning ball suspended in space. What exists is the law of density, by which an object of greater density than the medium …More
Not at all, it is a very serious one. I suggest you to take the time to look at it leaving aside your prejudices for a moment and you will be able to verify it. And, of course, the supposed "law of gravity" is another untenable hoax, invented to support the official story of the spinning ball suspended in space. What exists is the law of density, by which an object of greater density than the medium in which it is found goes down; otherwise, it goes up, like a balloon filled with helium in the air. By the way, it would be interesting for the cause of the globe if someone ever proves that water is capable of adhering to a sphere that rotates at 1600 km per hour and moves forward at more than 100,000 km per hour, retaining the colossal weight of the oceans but, surprisingly enough, being unable to prevent butterflies from taking flight without any difficulty...
GaryLockhart
Your tinfoil hat isn't tight enough, Miles.
Miles - Christi
Thanks for letting me know, I'll adjust it immediately, lest the surrounding bad vibes catch me... 😉
Live Mike
I think the earth is fixed (with a slight wobble) but it's NOT flat... it is a sphere. Yes, this means that the entire universe revolves around the earth in approximately 24 hours... Please read the excellent work,
"Galileo Was Wrong: The Church Was Right - The Evidence ... Modern Science & Church History"
by Dr. Robert A. Sungenis & Dr. Robert J. Bennett- Vol 1-3
Tony Smith
This a false and protestant grasp of reality. It is totally false. You have to be a first rate idiot to believe this stuff.
Miles - Christi - English
You can disagree with this idea -so do I-, but you don't have to express it through insults...
occasnltrvlr
I'm sorry to repeat myself, I've posted this before, but I must post it again. Sufficient proof that the Earth is not flat is that if it were, cats would long ago have pushed everything off of it...
...and, looking at the video, that's about the same level of intellectual rigor as the arguments presented therein to the contrary.More
I'm sorry to repeat myself, I've posted this before, but I must post it again. Sufficient proof that the Earth is not flat is that if it were, cats would long ago have pushed everything off of it...

...and, looking at the video, that's about the same level of intellectual rigor as the arguments presented therein to the contrary.
Miles - Christi
Funny your comment about the cats... 😉
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laurelmarycecilia
where do some of these posts come from? reminds me of the old rag National Inquirer.
Super Omnia Veritas
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Alex A
Rubbish!
Super Omnia Veritas
Take a look at the video and you will see that it is not so...